The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
早就买好票的杜比影院关了，不想看贵死的激麦，选了卢米埃的杜比全景声LD厅。音效尚可，终极银幕夜戏也过得去，主要不是3D，不会看着眼晕。有破案的故事情节，但不够悬疑，男主吸血鬼气质太深重，还是少点贵公子范。bgm用得太乱了，不统一。超过50的票价感觉不值。
政法衰败的哥谭拯救之路，虽然比较反感结尾将左翼PC领导人视作城市希望，但整体的解谜过程有种对城市历史求根问底的浪漫情操。解谜一点都不幼稚，说幼稚的人该是多无趣且故作高深的伪成人。
无感，睡过去好几次。不过又有什么能超越TDK三部曲呢？
有没有觉得姥爷在这部剧里其实并没有阻止什么，民众该死死该伤伤，真的李云龙都比你有用！
刀刃向内！哥谭市扫黑除恶专项行动揪出保护伞无数！不管是影调还是所谓正义，都披了层黑皮，就挺没劲的。哪怕复兴了一把姨学，也挺隔靴搔痒。
作为新重启的蝙蝠侠电影来说还是非常不错的，但无论从时长还是内容都感觉出导演对这部有些贪多，不过最后还能给整合好理顺了，没出现“永远”那种贪多杂乱问题。
预期之内的惊喜和激动。大本的粗壮体型还原了中年老爷？那这版就是身材不是很还原但其它方面很还原甚至还是复古风格的老爷。从黑暗中走出来和从夜晚火光中走出来一样那么有压迫感，让罪犯恐惧的黑暗骑士。让吸血鬼来演老爷真是妙，阴郁气质隔着屏幕地迷人。猫女和戈登都政治正确但不影响电影的精神。大概一连串的谜语能让老爷大喊谜语人滚出哥谭了，但追捕谜语人的查案过程正是漫画里那个印象中的哥谭义警，因为这才是蝙蝠侠。这真正还原了漫画，还原了黑暗骑士，不是扎克这种大超粉能拍出来的。作为老爷粉这当然是要给五星的，如果觉得还不够好大概是因为诺兰版珠玉在前。
我不会忘记当初诺兰的蝙蝠侠让我对超英电影彻底改观，但如今在电影院的三小时里我想通了一件事：我已经与现今DC电影价值观背道而驰渐行渐远。这像是一群保守派老白聚在一起反复观赏上世纪白男电影后做出来的又一部白男电影。与其说蝙蝠侠是个义警，不如说是个贵族骑士，只是在帮助权贵阶级捶打底层反抗，维持他精英视角中的岁静秩序。电影最后一味将底层阶级塑造成疯子、极端分子、精神病人，从而令他们曾受到系统性不公而发出的质问统统变成了虚伪的话术，最终消解在富二代公子（视觉上）有如神降一般的救赎中。视听华丽的外壳，想必是影评人最爱的那种“cinema”，如果当代电影意味着这些，那对现实来说是挺悲哀的。
分两天两截看完，第一天惊喜的是复古浓黑侦探类型在超英片上的化用，第二天失望的是大英雄化身红灯记自由引导人民抗洪样板戏。我看韦恩少爷早晚也得让黑人来演，就不用画眼妆了，那是真的谁也（看）不见，认不出来的shadow……
据漫画粉丝说，这版更贴近原始的蝙蝠侠形象，尤其是解决案情的部分。对于普通观众我来说，太长了！太拖了！电影走到一半我就丧失了乐趣，开始思考哥谭的运作机制，韦恩家涉及的产业，反社会人格的组织能力，群体暴力事件的人员特征，越想越无聊，越想越觉得实际生活比电影更暗黑。因此，可圈可点的美学风格和帕丁森性感的腹腰也难以让我再提起兴趣。这可能是DC的困境吧，漫画背景的暗黑叙事大概只适合涉世未深的少年。对帕丁森这种电影一点难度都没有。
差点被中后段毁了的半部好片，与新版过分做作的阿尔弗雷德不同，充满破碎感的蝙蝠侠在魅力和丰富程度上都要强于此前意气风发、游刃有余的贵公子形象。一个无力的超级英雄，一群表现欲过剩的超级罪犯，与侦探旗鼓相当、支起了一整条暗线的Noir女郎，所有人都身陷某种偏执的daddy issue，内里其实是古典甚至有些老旧的，它本没必要如此奋力地追赶时代，正如LB上一篇评论指出的：谜语人用社交媒体组织犯罪，而哥谭的人们获取最新信息依然需要依靠电视。
于是以为已经战胜了痛苦。
中国电影公司：？
就是太长了……把超级英雄拍成推理探案也未尝不是一种新出路……
给扎导道个歉，dc的英雄最迷人的是西西弗斯般受劫的神性，而不是在赛博朋克化的哥谭装科特柯本
比预期好点，差不多就是部《七宗罪》版蝙蝠侠——回归探案悬疑，继续坚持去漫画感、去超能力化，风格化的框架内尽量关照现实，虽然褒贬不一，但看起来这的确是条可行的道路。全片最大亮点肯定还是整套影像系统，腔调拉得很高，而且看得出源流丰富，不单是一句“黑色”可以囊括，也正是佳句颇多的精彩影像，让三个钟头的片长在大部分时间里显得不那么冗长。然后这一版的选角大部分也不错，不过帕丁森跟保罗·达诺这二位，一个黑深残中二少年，一个蛇精病中二少年，看起来都不算多有层次感的演绎。
3.5，帕丁森演得挺不错的，但是吧，整个片子就是既慢又慢，蝙蝠侠的反应也很慢，简直怀疑是不是头套挡着以至于听不见周围人在说什么，观感奇特。瑟金斯很好的，但是演阿尔弗雷德不行，保罗达诺棒棒。
看的IMAX，开始还觉得哥谭风景和故事悬疑氛围不错，可持续的黑夜和雨天，循环的配乐加上谜语人絮絮叨叨直接导致我睡着三次，其中包括最后打斗的时候，而且我下午还特别睡了午觉。是那么回事，谈不上好看。
激情评分！早晨还在家缅怀BVS，下午就和观影团入股新老爷的渣男就是我。新在返璞归真，新在写实，新在对超英电影的拨乱反正。再次让大家意识到Detective Comics依然连载，再次让大家想起蝙蝠侠在和大超打架之前是世界上最厉害的侦探。从滴水嘴兽的踉跄、Batmobil涅槃而来，到如摩西分红海般举起燃烧弹，从孤儿、继承者到守护者的过渡，没有造神，却在洪水中奠基哥谭的意志和家族的遗产。不断回忆起2016年至今看的漫画《漫长的万圣节》《缄默》《第一年》甚至游戏《阿卡姆》的画面，想起当初苦苦追订婚特刊为猫蝙虐恋流下的眼泪，在天台的kiss真的太珍贵了！涅槃和福莱居然一点不违和，此后新老爷也拥有了自己的专属BGM。谢天谢地，终于有一部蝙蝠侠作品不再让珍珠项链洒落一地、让韦恩夫妇受枪击的苦。
蝙蝠侠对比其他的超级英雄比起来也太depress了。我还是喜欢看超级英雄就感觉有希望的感觉。可能说这个比较真实？现实生活已经够难了，电影我还是希望cheer up一点
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