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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
女性题材。反堕胎确实傻逼，但欧洲这些个五部电影有四部都是怀孕也确实挺傻逼的，毫无美学可言。
1. 虽然题材有点老套，但是导演把它拍得很痛、很真实，女性的无助和挣扎真的很令人心痛😭，但缺乏了解读的空间和深度
去年在罗马看返校，今年威尼斯影展看瀑布，都是王净。一众从二十年前偶像剧熬成电影咖的老熟人，幸好华语电影还有台湾，幸好还有女孩子们之间的友善。
看此片时的背景:据BBC，美国最高法院（Supreme Court）于当地时间周五（6月24日）作出裁决，推翻近半个世纪前有关女性堕胎合宪权的“罗诉韦德案”（Roe v Wade），裁定女性堕胎并非宪法赋予的权利——这一决定可能立即导致堕胎行为在美国22个州属非法。
隐去男性的“作案”过程而专注于女孩怀孕后十二周之内的心理状态，导演的克制压制了三场戏的痛楚，就像她的哭声和痛苦嘶喊也被那个时代遏制住了喉咙，白描写实的长镜头拉长她与每个人相处的细节，看她怀孕想和她来一发也没事儿的男同学，避之不及害怕违法的室友，偷尝禁果多次但运气好没怀孕的朋友……为什么遭受身体爱欲磨难之苦的总是女性？我们从未拥有过自由支配身体的权力，法国60年代用法律锁住女孩的子宫，我们现在用实打实的铁链锁住，最富庶之地的县城竟成了一块铁桶，你们都有罪，可笑的是，那女孩却用身体一个接一个生孩子，替你们受罚。
每次看这样的电影都气得火冒三丈想骂脏话。身为女人，连自己的子宫都不能做主。就算同样是不成熟，为什么承担后果的都只是女人，男人就毫发无损？问题是现今社会还有这种事，人类到底进步在哪儿了？不值得。
这部金狮最佳电影不是水货。
拍摄方式没有特点，主要还是内容让我震撼。女人从始至终和政治密不可分。
近两年看了不少堕胎片，除了更痛的观感似乎也无甚亮点，有相像情节的女人韵事和432都比这强太多了……
1. 虽然题材有点老套，但是导演把它拍得很痛、很真实，女性的无助和挣扎真的很令人心痛😭，但缺乏了解读的空间和深度
To be a grail, or to be a human being.
女人始终承受 男人总是缺位
“一种只会攻击女性的病，一种让他们变成家庭妇女的病。”
不加修饰，现实甚至更加惨烈吧，每个人都应该看看。
2. 能够拿金狮，个人觉得还是有政治正确叠了buff，影片本身还没有精彩到这样的水平
那是生命吗？不是，那是一种只会攻击女人的病，而在一些地方，治疗这种病的权利已然被剥夺，为了治疗这种病，她们不是赌上了一生就是赌上了生命。
期望过高导致在性别差异难以共情之后只剩下一如结尾天空过曝的苍白
3.2
这片看的恐怖效果十足，心理和生理上的疼痛感都传达的很好。女性生来具有的生育能力是不能被任何人反驳的，堕胎不意味着否定自己。法律要求的对生命负责所需要的条件对于年轻女性来说是苛刻和残酷的，这意味着在巨大的困难和压力下承担更多的痛苦的自我的人生和另一个生命，在现在社会制度中还未曾有这样的自发性去强制要求女性是不公平的。影片对于传达女性面对性与爱的困境和孤独感有不可化解的悲哀和无奈，这一点在对于人的孤独命题来说呈现的十分悲观。花费众多笔墨去呈现的生理的痛苦还有巨大社会压力的焦虑的作用下一个首先作为人的女性的生存困境是非常无助的。男性在恋爱关系中体现的轻浮和自私的形象很尖锐，所有的痛苦和后果女性来承担，男性只需要有乐子的时候享受就好。太恐男了。可悲的是面对糟糕的人与人之间的关系却没有人可以逃离。
生育权和生命权，还是不要讲得那么社会化那么大，脱离那些道貌岸然的所谓层面，还是应该关注到个人生活的细枝末节上面来吧～
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