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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
场景制作相当不错 而且神兽们也很可爱 但是里面的爸爸绝对不可能是中国爸爸 No Chinese dad would love his wife more than his son.
本来期待蛮大去看的 ……外国人真的别拍中国电影
剧情就不说了。这廉价的布景，尴尬的打戏……漫威正常水平罢了
打的很爽，特别是前半段有点成龙港片的味道。中国元素多到怀疑这是不是漫威电影。看的很过瘾，期待尚气和奇异博士的碰撞。
上汽妈妈的眼睛有点刘嘉玲呢（上汽有点大大呢）
看《黑豹》的时候我就在问，非洲黑人真的会喜欢这样的电影吗？《黑豹》怎么样不知道，但至少大陆观众不喜欢《尚气》，但那又怎么样呢？这已经成为中国文化蔓延出去的另一条支脉了，在美国生根，在美国成长，把它当作一种新事物来看待就好
1.个人观感胜过去年的真人版《花木兰》，故事不时联想到《功夫熊猫3》，没想到最后还有像《哥斯拉大战金刚》的庞然大物对决；2.装上龙眼后的特效场面让我眼前一亮；3.本来以为梁朝伟对元华讲的那句“小子，跟我讲话礼貌点。我吃的盐比你吃的饭还多。”会是我全片最大的笑点，结果却被第一个彩蛋的《Hotel California》给后来居上了；……
梁朝伟和孩子他妈打架那段画面好美 世外桃源古风韵味超足 两个人对视（梁朝伟还是帅啊苦情人-）啊 这油腻的爱情 || 桃源里的中国古兽都太可爱了哭了..九尾狐四不像啥的wml给特效组递烟..||剧情方面没什么亮点 除了我不太get男主是怎么想通且下定决心要弑父.. 龙打架的时候恍惚在看哥斯拉大战金刚+一点哈利波特||妹妹撞脸机智医生里的翼顺 真的好像噢.. || 男主和其小姐妹的演员 - 颜值确实感觉差点意思..我没有别的意思..我感觉abc/abk确实长得是这样
【特效双语】《集结：尚气与十环传奇幕后制作》花絮特辑BV1QY411H7tQ 2021/12/23
漫威版功夫熊猫，但内涵反而比功夫熊猫浅不少。三观对中国粉来说属实诡异，还有很多情节对国内观众毫无意义，不如去掉，比如帝江和麦克白。男主虽然挺帅但略面瘫，跟梁朝伟对戏时接不住的感觉太强了。另外不是不能出个奥卡菲娜版花木兰但千万照原版拍别做任何魔改。
一开始是三生三世桃花，然后是喜福会等一票美裔华人文化认同故事，然后是生死时速，然后是成龙片，然后是速度与激情，然后是卧虎藏龙因为杨紫琼出来了，然后是哥斯拉大战金刚因为没有人类什么事儿，最后片名出来是两场奥运会。但最关键的是：梁朝伟 is still hot! H.O.T! 男主虽然表现不错，扛住了片子，也蛮可爱的，奈何他的娘他的爹他的妹妹他的小姨都比他星光熠熠。元华和本金斯利打酱油。片中的华文腔调终于字正腔圆了。总体可以给四星，诚意之作。Daddy issue again please just ignore.
没有想象中那么差，对漫威电影而言至少及格了。作为和其他漫威作品联动甚少、甚至科技和文化都大相径庭的新系列，本片的定位和最后效果其实和奇异博士差不多——唯一的区别是主角人气和卷福无非相提并论。影片的内核虽然中国人看起来会有点奇怪，但如果是华裔移民应该很容易感同身受；类似那些“生硬”的中文对白也是，在西方思维和英语语境下还蛮正常的。即便奥运五环*2看起来有点蠢，梁朝伟也有点魔怔；不过漫威系列电影里这样的场景还少吗？虽然片子不存在乳化，但放在2021年也的确是不讨巧：由于众所周知的原因，相当一部分观众会以自我为中心，认为只要对中国文化的引用和武术打斗不如国产片、片中人物不是以中国人的逻辑思考，就压根不应该使用中国元素，否则就是一种无礼甚至侮辱……加上明显粗制滥造的花木兰，迪士尼可得吸取教训了。
过去一年看到的第二场超级爽的公车打戏。思慕长得太像噗噗，让我好出戏（笑）。对迪士尼的 daddy issue 很疲劳，但动作场面和笑点都比意料中好，细节方面也很有诚意（有点希望那个京剧面孔的角色能多点戏份，搞个变脸什么的或许会很酷/creepy）。
还不错，representation做的比之前好一些，有很多文化的元素在里面，无论是明显的武术招式、异兽等等参考，还是台词字里行间的一些华人价值观，看得我挺骄傲的，缺点就是人物动机和塑造还可以更好，如果能有更深的象征意义也更好
巴士赶论文有风险，澳门竹竿夜景京东赞助，两场都市功夫戏设计其实还有点意思，但一穿越到《捉妖记》CG妖怪大战就愚蠢了；原来梁朝伟吃过的盐比元华吃过的饭还要多；尚气必须捆绑 Awkwafina 出场的原因是，少了后者的冷笑话，这个角色完全零存在感；他们唱K的歌《A Whole New World》《I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing》啥的，还真是我等看好莱坞长大的一代八零后会点的……
文戏、武戏、文化内涵、服化道做得再精致，主题上再怎么迎合中国人，都藏不住恶劣的种族视角问题。
两星半。再好的演员也cover不来的全面崩坏的剧情逻辑。我真的脑子里槽点太多塞住了吐不出来了
打戏真不错，节奏流畅符合漫威这两年的水准，文化元素也不突兀，缺憾是后面肉搏动作戏太少了打得过于……哪吒/龙珠毁天灭地？整体倒是不像部漫威片，反而让我想起来前两天隔壁的《Raya and the Last Dragon》。
上汽妈妈的眼睛有点刘嘉玲呢（上汽有点大大呢）
老外对华人文化的印象: 太极，阴阳，以柔克刚，用气胜力，看重传统，代代相传。
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