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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
摄影很有风格，其余真的不行，每个形象都不三不四，所有人一直在叽叽呱呱，主要转折点莫名其妙，惊悚桥段多少令人想起低配版电锯惊魂……
雨季多长，片长多长，没有植入雨靴广告是遗憾。喜欢Zoë的Selina，“这里烂透了，没救了”十分符合我心情。Bruce疑似全片只有一个造型是洗了头的？
帕蝙真的是，整个人都可以了。
和超蝙不相上下（中途内心：I feel like this film is raping my head）
导演追求film noir的质感是达到了，但美丽的镜头和有寓意的人物走位在故事薄弱的骨架上无法发挥最大力量，太慢的节奏雪上加霜。又想文艺又想动作又想侦探之后啥都不是。外加前有诺兰，简直是怎么比都没比过。
蝙蝠侠入党了？还懂得主动和政委沟通作风精神。
恰逢其时的电影，至少对我而言，阴暗忧郁的哥谭，就是如此，现今毫无希望的世界，疯人狂欢，城市淹没，人们无法活下去。非常个人艺术风格的超英，但和扎导的灰白不同，黑暗中总是有低沉的暖色调，阴雨连绵，霓虹机车，好像三十年后的赛博朋克。rob其实也没有变，十几年前的吸血鬼徒手拦住打滑的车，强大隐忍，秘密深藏，从那时起他戏里的忧郁和破碎感就一直在，成为布鲁斯·韦恩塌软着发欲言又止，在感情戏里一如既往克制地表演，无端着迷又装得漫不经心，戴上面罩后和蝙蝠侠一样变为另一个人，这个角色如此适合他。破案虽然就明侦水平，调度拍摄都精彩，英雄回望儿时，维续的精神不来自父辈，而来自于燃烧自己，一如摩西分红海，逃离王权出埃及。他在结尾第一次主动想吻她，明明双向竞逐，还是分道扬镳。
它的优劣显而易见，但它的意义正如每一次踩在时代的脉搏上，给未来一个拨云见日的投射。
看到一半儿就literally怀念诺兰三部曲了
中国电影公司：？
黑暗写实风格的蝙蝠侠，谜语人的哥谭连环凶杀案。配乐撑满情绪，但是探案的过程实在平庸。最开始不理解，韦恩少爷就算睡的少，黑眼圈也不至于重成这样，后来才发现那是为了填满面具涂的黑眼妆哈哈哈哈
这电影拍的真叫一个暗，你们剧组灯光师是不是失业了？
“我当你是老qanon，结果你站normie”，paul dano甚至让我想到了ron watkins，剧情几乎可以看作是internet troll的culture war寓言，但这三小时真的值吗?
只能说一般般，可能我已经厌倦了好莱坞这个游戏套路了……
多年来一直无法get到蝙蝠侠的爽点（另一个同样也get不到的是蜘蛛侠）
从Zoë Kravitz到Paul Dano，从Colin Farrell（想想还有单人衍生剧也很激动）到仅是客串出场的Carver兄弟，选角部分有不少惊喜，更期待一些之后的探索；倒是萝卜全程和角色保持一种诡异的疏离感，仅是部分画面仿佛深得导演偏爱，留下了好像“完成了几张质感很好的硬照”的错觉。不过它依然因为所选择的方向、刻画的“至暗-光亮”所着意烘托的所谓史诗感变得有趣；至少让人知道不仅仅在看属于脑内的预想和顺其自然的进行，那长达三个小时的进展也就足够有趣。
多年来一直无法get到蝙蝠侠的爽点（另一个同样也get不到的是蜘蛛侠）
摄影和美术设计不错，低照度下潮湿雨夜的街道，明暗对比的构图，类似黑色电影的视觉风格与蝙蝠侠很搭。一段教堂戏，一段追车戏，一段俱乐部停电枪战戏，视听调度很惊艳。剧作拉胯，独白、煽情都可以忍，临近高潮时连续的两次强行加强戏剧性的巧合忍不了。人物复杂性还是达不到蝙蝠侠应有的迷人程度，动机停留在是否精神弑父，谜语人的追求甚至从揭露哥谭阴暗面退化到“被人记住”，还是有点低幼了。
昨天看完后，觉得蝙蝠侠最后举着信号棒，在水中蹚过，后面跟着人群，像极了盗取火种的普罗米修斯，为哥谭带去文明与希望。他割掉绳子自己掉下去、被打之后懦弱得无助时刻，都让人回想起，他其实只是个凡人，但是他却拥有凡人所没有的苦恼，只有当他真的体会到凡人痛苦后，设身处地共同感受，而不是那个住在豪宅里的富家少爷，此刻蝙蝠侠才算正式营业了，爱情也是，当她心怀怜悯，放下姿态，收获了猫女甜美的吻。喜欢这部新蝙蝠侠的立意，纷乱世界，需要拨乱反正的勇气，当然也需要向佛陀般割肉侍鹰。喜欢DC带来的黑暗世界，也喜欢严肃题材下的幻想思考。
嗯，这片有点追求！哥谭拍得好，是那个味儿，角儿也是那个气质，就是叙事有点抻了，节奏把握得不好，好些该要好的地方没要下好来，可惜了，不过不要紧，最该有的已经有了，路子对了
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