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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
我觉得陀螺的片子只有一种打开方式，就是看之前拼命降低预期，于是看完会觉得咦还可以嘛。
不同时代背景之下，翻拍早期电影需要慎重，这个故事如果不大刀阔斧改一改，实在是乏味又疏离，因为在当下，马戏团、畸形秀、心理学都已经完全失去了神秘感，整个糅杂在一起，甚至比《Soho区惊魂夜》还乏味，竟然让小白兔和大魔王的魅力都折损了，很难让人相信这是陀螺拍的。但也许正是因为陀螺太一味沉浸在自己的梦幻世界，才没能让故事在现代电影的角度下活过来。陀螺还是继续去拍自己的幻想故事吧。
昨晚，不知多少人和我一样，被「国师」张艺谋「知微见著、去繁化简」的「中国古典」美学和浪漫震撼与感动到。虽与东方传统文化大相径庭，但喜欢钻研「黑科技」的观众也不妨看看西方《梦魇巷》里的「精神现象」学。显然，这是一个吸引「眼球」和争夺「注意力」的时代，导演的工作就是吸引并操纵观众。对于「江湖骗子」来说，导演仅是一个饭碗。然而，男主却是一个有「弑父」意识和包袱，且有「恋母」诉求和冲动的「时空」旅行者。他一面「挣钱」糊口，一面《偷吻》学艺——他的「艺术」启蒙导师是他的母亲，而他的「越界」对象亦是扮演《心灵猎人》角色的「通灵知心」师母。在托罗这部试图运用「基督」文明详解「水火既济」卦相，被「空心病」患者低估的寓言作品里，他的理想观众显然不是那些寻求感官刺激，容易被「江湖杂耍」牵着眼和脑子走的访客。待续
这什么倒霉译名？ 铺陈介乎到位与不到位之间 结尾无惊喜
老派重温。以导演的视听审美标准，以及剧本的细节之处，足可以在商业视听上冲击感官。与老版对比后更明显。
【我通灵，却只看到自己荒唐的野心】
小女被忽悠的做事，升职加薪还感谢老板（不过随着剧情的推演 ，扮猪吃虎谁又知道谁才是聪明的呢？最后各方都得到想要的）
但是如果这种道路走到了极端，走到了为了利润而忽视一切风险，那么结果是什么？
“You don't fool people Stan, they fool themselves.”
建议改名，沿用香港的译名是滑稽的。陀螺善于营造氛围，但叙事并不精彩。
私人癖好导致剧作重心略偏，节奏失控，但往后就好了，整体还是喜欢的，而且马戏团的戏虽是剧作上的败笔却在视听层面做的很棒，陀螺的影像与氛围依旧充满独特魅力，可比起之前在魔幻与现实的平衡，陀螺这回似乎更偏向现实主义，没有真正的怪物而是让现实将人摧残成怪物，魔幻骗术的神秘性被完全剥夺，一个底层野心被上流精英玩弄、践踏、毁灭，自以为是却只是个无知的玩具，美国梦终是虚无，下层命运终是循环无尽的悲惨，结尾很黑，但命运悲剧大于人物悲剧，男主塑造的还是差点意思，库珀的气质本身就不太符合角色
I thought this was going to be Guillermo del toro's The Prestige but no
托罗是我近年来很喜欢的导演，他的作品特征明显，纯洁的小白兔，得力没有好下场的二把手，以及真实到溢出屏幕的痛感，希望导演能在深度上再下点功夫，而且感觉被骗了，大魔王和鲁妮·玛拉完全没有对手戏诶...
真的拿捏住黑色电影的范了，从故事的编排到人物布景，都向450年代的电影致敬，换句话说，会有人觉得很老气没新意。
最喜欢开头马戏团的一段。视觉上有独特的地方，场景氛围塑造的很不错。男主全程就是自我膨胀，到最后沦为geek。这个片子对精神分析有很多特别批判的地方 哈哈
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因为评分比较低所以期待不大，但是居然看完觉得很惊喜。确实时长是短板，很多地方可以精简缩到两个小时的。导演本人因为太爱自己的场景设计和服化道，所以镜头都给的很长很久而且拉的很远，导致节奏感觉缓慢。但是水形物语和潘神的迷宫都是差不多的表达，不能因为这个是crime thriller就硬要求人家快节奏。喜欢guillermo del toro的人应该不会觉得不喜欢。
Guillermo del Toro這一次最大的錯誤，應該是過度放縱自己了吧，馬戲團部分戲份過長，導致結構不平衡，前後割裂如兩部電影，而且這一次連符號也沒玩好，我一度以為他在《水形物語》玩水之後要開始玩火了，然而火這一符號又在電影中段消失了許久。明明聚集了那麼多優秀演員，卻把角色都寫得頗為扁平，結果沒有一個有正常水平的發揮，暴殄天物了。
没看过原版，这版单看还可以的。前面会让人觉得铺垫过多，但其实人明显也不是奔着爱情故事片去的。摄影美术都很好，工整。
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